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Is Kaw going to come out with a new ZX10R or what? They are suppose to race GP next year with a new bike and I would guess it would be a 989cc or somewhere abouts. I stuck between, getting BB kit for my 9, sellling it and buying the ZX12R (would love the extra power but not the extra weight) or just waiting for a ZX10R. Anyone heard any news on it?
 

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Nobody knows except for top executives at KHI. The rumor mill has been going strong for 2 years now so we can only hope. The motoGP bike is not an issue because that bike cannot be based on a production bike. Unless a special early release in done, announcements of new models are done once a year at the dealer show in the fall.

 

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I totally agree with your dilemma and am right there myself.

I love my 98' 9R but want more power and less weight would not break my heart. A new ZX10R is the answer but what will the price of admission be and when will it be available?

The 12R is enticing but is soooo heavy. Nothing else on the market is comfortable enough to even be worth the compromise.

Do you ever feel like no mfg. builds exactly what you want?

The big bore kit probably is the closest thing.

I'm with you man and let me know what you chose to do.....
 

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I guess we're both on the same sheet of music. The 9R is just sooo comfortable, fast, and does everything well. It's just so hard to decide right now. That new Blue ZX12R is very tasty looking. But you're right, the added weight I don't want. I would hate to drop another $3000 in the bike and a new ZX10 pops up this fall. Decisions decisions!!
 

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I guess you could always put the Muzzy 998cc kit on to get more power...
Do you do a lot of hard accelerating or track racing?
Because I thought the 9R has quite a bit of power as it is?

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I would love to see a 10R to compete with the R1, Gix 1K, and 954. It's Kawi's turn to update now

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The 9R does make impressive power but it is never enough....

I don't know about blubyu but I live at high elevation - I usually ride over 6000 feet (and as high as 12,000). I also am 6'2" and around 225. Those factors make me want some more power.

I love my 9R but 20% more power would be a beautiful thing. The weight of the 9 is just about perfect, the seating position is great, 998 cc's would probably just about do the trick!

The only thing I would worry about in a factory ZX10R is that Kawasaki might move the bike away from the great all-arounder that it is now and make the riding position as agressive as the R1 or Gixxer 1k.
 

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believe it or not, in the latest issue of Two Wheeled, the Triumph made 137hp to the ZX-9s 133, and made the same 70lb ft of torque. THey said the the 9 was the better bike, but my point is that I never thought I'd see the day when I triumph made more power than a japanese engine, and a KAWASAKI at that!!

I am happy where I am, but I am finally compelled to ask the question: What the hell are they doing over there?

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I don't understand why they can't just adopt a Muzzy big bore style upgrade and be done with it? Maybe they're working on a major redesign? They must see that consumers are looking for litre bikes right now inline with the R1/Gix1K/954RR??
 

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Not intending to perpetuate the rumor mill but I heard this last summer from a close source to Kawasaki that the new ZX-10R would be FI and it would have an exhaust system that was similar to the MV Agustas F4. It could all be BS but I'm not sure why this guy, who is as close to Kawasaki as you can be without being employed by them, would say it. Something to chew on anyway :)

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One thing you haven't considerred:

my crystal ball sees a ZX10R on the horizon....wait it's getting clearer.....it produces as much power as the best of the rest, handles awesomely, brakes like a god, looks fantastic, its Kawasaki green.......it's a rebadged Kawasuzi Gixer thou.
 

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We can be thankful that won't happen. Best of the rest? the 9R has never been down on power til the Gix1k debut and per cc the 9R still sits on top. With my ZX-998R, Gix1k still sux on my fumes :)

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naw mate - reckon there'd be uproar if it happened - didn't they categorically state no chance on a rebadged sportsbike?? also reckon might not be a zx-10r - unless they reengineer the 9R to be an all out sports tourer...

i mean not much logic in creating a cutting edge 1000cc sportsbike when you have a 900cc sportsbike and a 1200cc sportsbike....still though...really hope i'm wrong...heheh

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From the people I know at Kawi and talking to the R/D people at Daytona we will see a liter bike but we don't know if it will be 03 or 04. Kawi is going to have a ton of changes in the next 12 months with all new dirt bikes, quads, a new 6R and the ZX10R. Be patient, pretty cool stuff is coming.
 

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I hear some of the 9Rs can be a bitch to start unless they're warm. The FI would be nice. I'm sure Kawi could also improve the power quite a bit and drop some weight.

Despite its flaws, I still don't see it getting its ass kicked too badly in the mags or on the street. It really comes down to the rider... and most people will never see its limits.

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Well I'll say this. Kaw is slated to run in the 2003 GP series. I'm hoping that the bike they submit will be an inline 4 (I'm not a twin man) and that the ZX10R will use a lot of that technology. Against my better judgement I went to the kaw shop and sat on a 2002 blue 12R today (I left my checkbook home just in case) Although sweet as can be, no sparks flew. I think the extra weight kind of got to me. That and the amount of money I have in my bike!!

I'll just wait it out, maybe do some private dancing for the ladies so I can get a big bore kit!!!!
 

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I'm so tired of hearing about how heavy the ZX-12R is, and how you'll all have to compromise performance because of the weight...and from all people, the ZX-9R riders. The 9R has been blasted for being overweight when compared to the other literbikes, yet still enjoys excellent sales and loyal customers. The ZX-9R is a great streetbike, and so is the ZX-12R. I have had no trouble hustling my 12 through twisty roads, and the power is something to be experienced. I used to own a Hayabusa and traded it in for a 12 because I feel the 12 handles better. Although it's only about 7 lbs lighter than the Hayabusa, it feels more like 50 lbs. The ZX-12R is magical at hiding it's weight once you roll away. Oh, and it's nice finally having a bike that not every squid has riding around town.
 

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Amen!
We're talking milli seconds in performance numbers printed in motorcycle magazines. The guys that road test these bikes are usually alot better riders than us guys writing the comments we're reading and can benefit all the performance, usually on a track I might add. I ride a 99ZX9 and spank alot of bikes on the street, lighter, more HP, usually if I get spanked it's not the bike but me the rider.
So if you like Kawi's, ride one, don't listen to all the B.S, improve your riding skills and go have fun.

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