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Didn't someone say the new Pilot Sports were out??

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If you're thinking about running Pilot Races on the street, and you ride in sub-50-degree weather, go stand in front of a mirror and punch yourself a few times /images/icons/laugh.gif. Just kidding...but seriously, they don't start sticking too well until they're quite hot. I had a rather painful lowside yesterday on cold Pilot Races, so if you ride in cold/damp conditions, think twice before putting what are basically DOT-legal race tires on your scoot. Been there, crashed that, hobbling around like a geriatric now /images/icons/crazy.gif

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nominal_squid - These ARE NOT the RACE tires. The Pilot RACE 2's will be offered in different compounds.
The H2's are for AGRESSIVE CANYON riding and the occasional Track day.

 

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Hm, I didn't get that impression from the blurb. Oh well, I will reserve judgement on the Race H2's until I actually try out a set (which at my current rate of tire burn should be oh, next month?)...

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Since I have become pretty loyal to my Michelin Pilot sports, and am always wanting feedback on the new technology in tires, I decided to check in on these new Editions from Michelin. The word from the guys at the bike shops is that all the new Michelin sportbike tires, the H2, no matter what the tread compound, are not designed for the average aggressive street rider. It should benoted that these tires were designed and released to compete with the gp editions of dunlop. So, this means that these H2's save for the ones Noud is describing, are more tire than needed for the average sportbiker and won't last much longer than 13 or so heat cycles, assuming you ever get them hot enough. The model Noud describes is designed to be grippier and than the current pilot sports without sacrificing too much longevity, in other words, will last much longer than a dunlpop 207 gp edition and can go through more heat cycles. I am all for trying out some H2's, but the price so far doesn't seem worth the experimentation for my needs. If anyone tries these tires out, Please let the rest of us know what exact compound you try, how you rode them, how long they lasted, and if the handling charactersitics differ greatly from current Pilot sports. I love my current pilot sports so I will need good feedback before I try anything else. I would greatly appreciate a post on this once someone gets some saddle time in these tires.

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MnErion - I TOO LOVE Pilot Sports. I will tell you that the Sportec's are just as good as the Pilots for a MUCH better price (for now). I actually like them just a little bit better than the Pilots.

 

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I really don't think it makes a dam bit a difference to the rest of us who don't spin and slide the tires around a turn only to wheelie out of it down the straightaway like Noud. But then again, I reasoned, "Noud likes 'em, who the hell am I to say otherwise?" So now I use Sportec's as well./images/icons/smile.gif


 

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I'm having a big Michelin tire year so I'll report on them all as soon as the snow goes /images/icons/frown.gif

I'm going to run a set of 2001 Pilot Sports for the street.

I also have a set of 2002 Pilot H2s coming that will see track duty only.

Also have a set of 2001 Pilot Race in the standard compound that I'm going to use for track days in August when it's really hot.

The new full Race Pilots the M2(standard compound) and the S2 (soft compound) will only be available through trackside Michelin tire distributors. So don't go asking your dealer for these because he won't have them and probably can't get them either. The M2 and S2 tires are SERIOUS RACE ONLY tires, will run about $365 and will be the cats' ass! If you feel you need these tires for the street, y'all better slow the #%[email protected] down! /images/icons/smile.gif


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If I hear anymore good reports of the new Metzeler tires, I think I will try to get some once the Pilots go. But so far they are on their way to get maybe 5,000 miles so it might be a while. The new metzeler tires must not be anything like the old Mez1 and Mez3 profiles. I rode the MEZ1 once and I liked them until I was at full lean. Then they felt like I was ridding a fine line between great grip and even greater slip. Luckily I never slipped but I have since never experienced that feeling with other tires. Wait I take that back, the BRICKSTONE BT50 gave the same cornering feeling. Sounds like the new sportec M1 has a better cornering feel to them which is what I am all about with these bumpy midwest roads. Nothing scares me most than the feeling of a tire not soaking up the bumps at full lean in a tight corner.

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My 929 came with Pilots when I bought it and I love them!! However, one late Saturday afternoon after a hard day of canyon riding I picked up a screw in my rear tire. Only one shop still open that I knew of, called the guy told him I was going TRY and limp my way there and asked if he would stay open and change the tire out for me, which he agreed. He didn't have Pilots in stock so it was either go with the new Metzeler or wait until Monday after work (tire was falt by at his shop). I unhappily decided to go with the Metzeler but, I can honestly say they are GREAT also and without question heat up faster than the Pilots!! My nest set will be which ever I can find the best price between the Pilots and Metzeler, they are both GREAT tires.

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