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well, hello all, i have a question on makin my bike go right or left at very high speeds, i just feel the air is so stiff and powerful when leaning in front and head down i can't move the bike feel is so heavy . any technics . Also, would like more info on body moves and fast maneuver technics in hard corners , thanks all
 

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The faster you go I more you will turn to either side with less lean. I would say just get use to your bike and find out how much you need to lean you turn so far. use your body

 

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Welcome emad76, I think you're our first guest from the land of pointy rock huts.

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Try scootin' your butt off to the side you want to turn towards. If you have any TV racing coverage in your area, or some magazines with pictures of racers turning, you can see how you could position your body to help you turn better.

It also might help to do a lot of push-ups and rowing exercises in order to build up more muscle/endurance so that it will seem to take less effort to apply a lot more force.

 

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This body lean topic has been covered by Keith Code's Superbike school. I suggest you go to his website and read some of his editorials.

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(a) Take the MSF course.
(b) Buy "A Twist of the Wrist, Part 2"

What you need to learn is counter-steering. Essentially, you push the bar in the direction you want to go - so if you want to turn RIGHT, you PUSH on the RIGHT side of the bars. Yes, this is precisely how you would turn a bicycle LEFT. It sounds absurd at a glance, but the effect is to lean the motorcycle in that direction and it is the LEAN that you want.

Please take the course and read the book - you need to feel confident about how you need to move and how the bike will react before you experiement at "high speeds".

Ride safe,

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Take the MSF course? Last I checked they don't teach you [censored] about highspeed cornering. I never got out of second gear on a 250cc motor when I went.

My advice. Shift body wheight to the side you want to turn on. It helps a bit. But what works for me is the push and pull of the bars, you just need more of it. The faster you go the harder it gets. Practice. Practice. Practice!

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Although your english makes me want to jump to various unfavorable conclusions... about how fast are we talking about here? Raw speed fast or "I just went through that corner at triple the posted 15mph!!!" fast?
 

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usually goin triple an advised speed limit is pretty daaamn fast..i know some 30 mph turns here, that probably crazy people could hook at 90....but i sure as hell wouldn't try it....yikes

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There is one road here with posted 30's and it is not uncommon to push 120 on them. Of course it is a one way road with 2 lanes and constant radius turns.

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MSF has classes in Egypt?. Counter-steering will come naturally, the difference at higher speed is that you would need more input than you would need at lower speeds, weighting the pegs more and applying more pressure to the bars.

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Over here the MSF class teaches counter-steering.
We also have a race track where you can go through the school. I don't know if you have anything like that where you are, but if you do it might be worth looking into.

BTW what part of Egypt are you in, my brother in law is from Cairo.

 

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Twist of the Wrist, Part II is an excellent book.

The buzzword for high-speed turns (anything above 50 kph) is "counter-steering". Try searching on that word.

If you can access Keith Code's website, then study up what material he offers. Twist of the Wrist, Part II is his book
 

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i haven't asked about the MSF course, but i guess we don't have it here in egypt, i live in cairo maadi area. tried counter-steering yesterday did fine, push on the right side of the bars the bike leans on the right side, push on the left side the bike leans on the left, but i guess i need more practice on body movement. Also, i just feel more comfortable pushing on the right side rather than pushing on the left side maybe coz normally the right hand is more powerful and more controllable
 

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Welcome eMad.

I sure the problem is you need better roads!



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i just feel the air is so stiff and powerful when leaning in front and head down i can't move the bike feel is so heavy...

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Are you kidding? The 6r is a real light bike! Much lighter than my 7R! You need to work out and exercise to build up strength in order to make that bike handle the way you want it to!

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