: Small form factor video cards/PCI AGP cards!?


LabRodent
06-18-2007, 08:19 PM
Building a small gaming/fun box. I got a small, home theater case. It is so slim that none of my cards are made for this thin form factor. I was unaware they made pci & agp cards this small... Nor can I find any new ones. wuh!? Where can I get these cards made for this slim form factor? Anyone know?

desmo_dude
06-18-2007, 11:28 PM
If it's as short as these Micro-ATX HTPC (home theater PC) cases by Silverstone (http://silverstonetek.com/products/p_contents.php?pno=ml01&area=usa), it won't accept any peripheral cards and you're expected to use onboard video, network, sound, etc. You won't be building much of a gaming system if you want to use that case.

My older model Silverstone is basically just a desktop case with a nice brushed aluminum finish and some other nice touches, and was able to fit several generations of ATI cards up until this most recent one (X1950XT). Now I gotta leave the case cover off. :tongue: It's just a wee bit too tall.

SpikedLemon
06-19-2007, 07:15 AM
What's in the Mac Mini... or for that matter; can you use a laptop video card?

Stray
06-19-2007, 07:26 AM
Get a right-angle AGP adapter:

http://www.adexelec.com/agprx4-1.jpg

AGPRX4-1 is an AGP right angle extender. (http://www.adexelec.com/agp32.htm#AGPRX4-1)


They have them pointing in either side.

http://www.adexelec.com/agptx4-5a.jpg



:waytogo:

jeffsback
06-19-2007, 07:39 AM
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Stray said:
Get a right-angle AGP adapter:

http://www.adexelec.com/agprx4-1.jpg

AGPRX4-1 is an AGP right angle extender. (http://www.adexelec.com/agp32.htm#AGPRX4-1)


They have them pointing in either side.

http://www.adexelec.com/agptx4-5a.jpg



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Hey that's cool, I was going to suggest breaking out a soldering iron...

desmo_dude
06-19-2007, 10:38 AM
or a Roto-Zip. :smile:

LabRodent
06-19-2007, 04:05 PM
Here is what I got.
http://i24.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/a2/31/3d8b_12.JPG http://i9.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/a2/31/3cc8_12.JPG http://i18.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/a2/31/3e1f_12.JPG

I found out that they make some cards in a "Slim" design. They are difficult to find though. And even when some say slim, the metal thing that goes to the back of the case is still long.

Here is what I am talking about... This is the vid card I want now.
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-139-165-09.jpg
see, it is slim...

This one says slim, but the metal face is still long. /wwwthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-139-167-11.jpg
though, as you can see the board is slim.

I had to cut the metal face on my NIC card so it would fit. No screw down bracing now. But it works.

CrashGordon
06-19-2007, 06:32 PM
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LabRodent said:


This one says slim, but the metal face is still long. /wwwthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-139-167-11.jpg
though, as you can see the board is slim.


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I wonder what holds the metal face on that card. With some of them, it's just the two nutscrews that keep the monitor cable from coming unplugged. Unscrew those and the face comes off. If you can take the mounting face off, it would be easily modified. It appears that that is a thin card that has a long face for use in a standard case.

LabRodent
06-19-2007, 06:51 PM
Yeah, I saw a kit while searching that had slim faces for these slim cards. It said it fit XFX cards I think. But, knowing exactly which cards it would fit was unclear. Now I cant find it.

desmo_dude
06-19-2007, 07:50 PM
Doesn't look like that video card is going to run very many games. I had a Radeon 9600 years ago that was a lot beefier looking than that, and it won't run crap.

LabRodent
06-19-2007, 11:46 PM
It isnt the best of cards. But it is a "NVIDIA GeForce 6200 AGP 8x/LP Support 256MB DDR". It is a DirectX 9 card and supports the newest pixel shader 3.0. That card could play many games really. Counter Strike, even CS Source with those specs. I think it could run more games than one would expect out of a card that size. Just the newest stuff would prolly' be a load.

desmo_dude
06-19-2007, 11:50 PM
Wow, that's surprising how new that card is.... I would've guessed it was a lot older. Pixel shader 3.0 was what forced me to upgrade from an x850xt to an x1950xt, and both those cards are freakin' huge. :crazy: I guess it's not all about size, eh? :grin:

LabRodent
06-20-2007, 12:03 AM
Same here with the shader 3.0... Here is my card, it is huge. (though most of it is for cooling). But this small card is boasting close to the same specs my gigantic card is.
http://www.rueducommerce.fr/composant/images/produits/info/big/HIS-X1300IQ256AGP.jpg

Bozo
06-20-2007, 06:43 AM
We've been using Jaton small form-factor cards for adding secondary video to some of our tiny Dell Optiplexes. Naturally, as soon as one person had dual monitors, we got flooded with requests from people that suddenly had a need. :rolling:

Anyway, the ones we run don't have anywhere near the horsepower for gaming, but they do come with both sizes of faceplates. They are hel on by the 2 connector nuts. FWIW, if it fits (physically & cooling-wise), I'd go with the angle adapter and run the card I really wanted.

The other day the boss' son discovered he could run 3 monitors (onboard video, plus two on a PCI128-Twin), so I'm sure we'll get another round of requests soon. :808993-banghead:

LabRodent
06-20-2007, 01:05 PM
But with the angle card, the card wont fit because of the case. The back plate that is slotted is only made for cards that are in the slots correctly. And I am not going to cut out the back of my case to do that. Plus my NIC PCI card may be in the way.